• I can report a dilute, "Blond" Bandtail Pigeon and a very evenly spotted, (white spots), Scaley Naped or Rednecked Pigeon. If this bird were a horse it would be called a reverse Leopard Appaloosa. "Very striking". [Monte]
• For the pied gene to show - the male or female which is normal colored has the pied gene hidden. I jsut did it with the Eurasian Collared Doves. All the young produced are either fawn or wild type colro but ALL have the pied gene hidden. To get the pied I have to bred sibling together or to the pied parent. Works the same in Senegal Doves. I have a 50% or better pied Senegal male - it can be passed to young but will be recessive & possibly not seen till bred to the parent or sibling. Works the same as in RNs. [John]
• Pied ringnecks have the recessive mutant which looks grizzled as a juvenile as John described. Other pied mutants are a bit more likely to be the same in other species or even a different mutant in the same species is possible. But different mutants CAN be codominant or dominant instead of recessive. Each has to be tested. Any new mutant should be tested with wild type among the various tests necessary or useful. I'm glad to know that senegal palm doves, S. senegalensis, are showing color mutants finally. Any others? [wjm]
• I have Spotted Doves that have the pied factor. It is a dominant one as a single bird paired to a normal will produce pied offspring. When these pied birds are paired, a totally white bird is produced. I am told it is a
  reverse pied. Have attached a photo of one of my Pied Spotted (Chinese Laceneck) Doves. Good luck with this bird you have just acquired. Let us know how you go. Let me explain the situation with these Spotted Doves. The normal coloured birds are not commonly kept as aviary birds in Australia. No one has the fawn types except me. I was given the fawn bird as a wild caught specimen. I then rang around and was told about the pied mutation. I was offered a bird and was lucky as the fawn was a hen and this pied was a cock. Totally unrelated birds. I produced pieds in the first nest. The fawn mutation is recessive as I have produced fawn from two normal coloured birds split for fawn. Some of my pieds are split for fawn. Unfortunately, I lost the first pied fawn youngster that I bred.If you have bred from your Pied Senegal and it is recessive, so be it. I was only speculating at the outcome from my experience with the Spotted Doves. Seems like there are different pied mutations. I have since called the guy that gave me my original pied, he doesn't have any more, so I don't know what the population would be outside my aviaries. He did show me a totally white bird that resulted from a pied to pied breeding, which he called reverse pied. A beautiful bird.I will have to busy myself with increasing these mutations. [Ken]
• There is an old, old old book that is called BIRD HYBRIDS (1958) that lists most of our doves crossing with another dove specie. WJM is noted several times for research he contributed in the 50's. Billy Warren keeps his (Scaley Naped & WCx) together and they never were interested in the other.
• I like to share with you a bird which have won every possible prize on shows, it is a cross between an Ice pigeon (Domestic breed) and a Barbery dove.Please email me photo's of your doves, hybrids and mutations or any photo's of interest. [Rudo]
• There has been a dilute population of zebra doves and several white zebra doves found in HI (none were ever caught though).
• The ECD have already been reported in every county in the State of TX. In fact if you read the Audubon Field Notes they have been reported in quite a few States in their "documented" discovery by P W Smith in 1987. The field marks are the Tail spikes (only found in this specie) and the dark gray undertail coverts. The voice is also quite unique -- and when you hear the "scream" you will then know it is an ECD.
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